link of a
remote control to the parallel port
for the following
contributions we would like to thank you the respective authors
cordially. Only by the variety of the descriptions of link the
parallel port INTERFACE system of the FMS is von Nutzen. If you know
a pin allocation or a link circuit not specified here yet, we would be
pleased about a short description. Neither we nor the authors of the
following contributions take over the adhesion for any damage to
computers, INTERFACES or remote control or damages of any art.
the building guidance of Harald Sattler
I suggested Michael implementing a simpler possibility of
using the own remote control as control device for the FMS than the
adapters already suggested, which are based on a more or less complex
conversion of the remote control signals to a Gameport genehmes signal
or on opening the transmitter.
Basic idea is about to connect the transmitter as
easily as possible with the PC.
If thus the own transmitter
1. in the PPM procedure operates (or to it to be adjusted
can)
and
2. a so-called " teacher pupil socket " has
opposes (meanwhile) nothing more.
One needs only a parallel port plug (25pol Sub d, male, thus
with pins), a plug, which fits into the L-Section (sharp edges) socket
of the transmitter, approx. 2 meters two-vein line for
connecting transmitter and PC (- rear side!), as well as
a resistance and a breakdown diode.
The diagram looks as follows:
+---------+
A )------------------| 680 Ohm |---------*--------------------( Pin 10
+---------+ |
|
-----
Right-angle socket / Parallel-
on transmitter /\ ZPD 4,7 Port on
/ \ PC
------
|
|
B )--------------------------------------*--------------------( Pin 18
The ring of the breakdown diode must point to the resistance.
The ports A and B are different thereby from remote control to remote
control. With the seal " Terra Top " and the seal " Luna " of
neuzehnhundertdunnemals are it in a " normal " 5poligen diode plug the
following pins:
2 opinion from the front on the plug, one sees
o thus the pins in the round
5 o o 4
(the plugs which I know, have those
3 o o 1 numbers stamped)
-
Shield (ground)
A is with pin 1 to connect (Signal)
B is with Pin 2 to connect (Ground)
the shield is wired
Ingenious way is wired with these two remote controls still
pin 3 and pin 5. If one connects these two pins in the diode plug
with a cable link, then NF becomes (or digital)Teil switched on when
putting the plug into the transmitter its, without the HF section is
likewise supplied with voltage. In this way the lucky owner of such a
transmitter does not need to meet precaution, in order to protect the HF
section against harm by operation without antenna. Additionally the
current consumption without HF section is drastically smaller.
If no such connection is wired in the own transmitter, it is
advisable to quiet-add the HF section by pulling the quartz if with
FMS to be practiced is.
Still two further transmitter were to me at the disposal:
a Robbe/Futaba Skysport 4 of newer date (1997 bought) and a seal
4-Kanal-Anlage of 1995 does not know their name I. These two systems
have in each case a 6poligen plug for the L-Section (sharp edges)
operation. The allocation is as follows:
NOTE: REVISED BY C. GADD ON 10/17/00 BASED ON INFO FROM STEVE LEWIN.
THIS SHOWS THE CORRECT TRAINER SOCKET CONNECTION FOR ALL MODERN FUTABA TRANSMITTERS.
3 Diagram shows the socket on the transmitter.
o
4 o o 2
o
5 o 6 o 1
-
Shield (ground)
A is connected to Pin 4 (Signal)
B is connected to the shield and to Pin 6 (Ground)
cjg
(Wenx27s interested: With these two newer Robbe/Futaba
systems pin 4 is the output at " transmitter ". At "
Lehrer-transmitter " this signal at pin 3 must be fed. Thus one has then
an inexpensive L-Section (sharp edges) cable for these transmitters.
With the TerraTop or Luna the plug is not a teacher pupil
output, but the plug was used, in order " at the soil " without HF
radiation the Servos to adjust or to control be able. For this
purpose a cable was attached, which has a 3poligen " servo plug " at
the other end, which was put into a special input of the recipient.
But only besides...)
If the allocation of the L-Section (sharp edges) socket is
not well-known, the bent user must inquire or by means of Oszi measure
either the allocation with the manufacturer or with the model
construction dealer of his confidence. The pin, at which against Ground
a square wave signal with a period duration of approx. 1,5ms is to be
seen, corresponds to port A.
Whom those the sizing of the " circuit " underlying
calculations interest:
I assumed the transmitter with 8 nC-cells is operated. If these 8
cells are quite full-loaded, an operating voltage of any more than
approx. 11 V does not place itself with good cells in transmitters (1.34 V
per cell). After few minutes operation will then fall the voltage on
approx. 9.6 V. After master ohm (U=R*I) leaves itself then in the
most unfavorable case with 10 mA shunt current by the breakdown diode
the resistance with (11V-4,7V)=R*0,01A - > R=630 ohm to calculate.
The next higher standard value is 680 ohms. The shunt current will
then adjust in the most unfavorable case (Akkus quite fully) to 9,2mA.
The resistance must thus a performance of P=U*I - > P~58mW "
verb-guess ", it do thus a normal 100mW type.
The sense of the breakdown diode is in the delimitation of
the input voltage for the parallel port to a max. value, which does
not harm it (the parallel port) guaranteed. Since those of parallel
port generally operate with TTL levels, thus with values smaller 5 V,
we are here with 4.7 V on the safe page.
This view applies if the signal at the output of the
L-Section (sharp edges) socket a value of greater 5 V has. If the
signal is smaller, the voltage-limiting influence of the breakdown
diode disappears. In this case the sensitivity of the parallel port
input is the critical point. With me accessible parallel port (two
Multi IO cards and an Onboard interface on a ASUS Motherboard) a
voltage increase of 0.9 V of zero-point was sufficient, in order to
bring the test routines of Michael to responding. The probability
that the signal at an L-Section (sharp edges) socket a so small level
has is however relatively small, since thereby the noise margin falls
into critical areas. One considers that in the case of doubt at least
one HF transmitter in direct proximity with approx. 1 Watt performance
radiates, and no disturbances into the L-Section (sharp edges) cable
to be nevertheless one-coupled may (Graupner uses optical waveguide
cables for the connection of the two transmitters recently for this
reason?).
The area of the admissible operation for our adapter is
situated thus between approx. 1 V and 11 V for the L-Section (sharp
edges) output signal.
In order the polarity of this signal we need to make here
fortunately no thoughts, that from us Michael in its ingenious program
already removed ourselves.
This information isn't intended for someone who doesn't know which end of a soldering iron
is hot! Beginners should enlist the help of someone more experienced with basic electronics.
In other words, don't blame us if you blow up your transmitter or computer.
cjg
Harald Sattler, June 1999
Supplement for the transmitters seal Starion and Hitec Flash 5
The days I got still another remote control into the fingers.
A seal Starion, 4 channels, no expandabilities, no L-Section (sharp
edges) socket: - ((
Since it concerned with this system however the remote
control of my father and I want this summer with it on the meadow, so
that he learns to fly its electrical sparrow, I thought, since must
itself which make let...
Meant done, the housing opened, and see there, this system
has a HF module, which can be removed without tool. At the patch cord
could be determined at few expenditure (Oszi), on which pin the
digital signal lies close, Ground was found also fast. The digital
signal corresponds means acceptance marvelous, thus to 9 V signal
amplitude. Fast the adapter plug for the parallel port equipped with
resistance and breakdown diode, sufficiently for a long time, 2polige
line between them, screen at pins 2 and 3 of a 5poligen of Wirewrap
plug, soul of the line at pin 5, the summerhouse is finished.
The diagram in addition looks as follows:
+---------+
A )------------------| 680 Ohm |---------*--------------------( Pin 10
+---------+ |
|
-----
Patch cord / Parallel-
between Digital- /\ ZPD 4.7 Port to
and HF-section in / \ PC
Transmitter ------
|
|
B )--------------------------------------*--------------------( Pin 18
The ring of the breakdown diode must point to the resistance.
View into the opened, " on the back which is situated " transmitter:
+-----------------------------------------------------------~
| housings from the inside (here is " in front ")
| Patch cord to the HF section
| +---------+
| ----------------------------|o o o o o|- (here on the right puts
| ---------------------------------------- normally that
| Digital circuit board 1 2 3 4 5 HF-section)
|
|
~
~
A at Pin 5
B at Pin 2 and/or Pin 3 (are anyway connected on the circuit board)
For the plug in the transmitter I have, as already written, a
Wirewrap patch cord uses. These plugs consist of four-sharp-edged
Messingstaebchen, approx. 0.8 mm thickly, which are welded into a
plastic tape next to each other and are 2.54 mm in line in the screen
line dimension. So a tape 5 staebchen pinched off, on approx. 12 mm
shortened (the staebchen are originally approx. 20mm long, both under
the plastic tape measured) and above the plastic tape the line
soldered on. To the operation of the transmitter with FMS the cable can be
led e.g. by the hole, where the normally that sits quartz. The HF
section is anyway plugged off, there needs we thus no to think.
Now still fast, the adjustments for Portabdresse and
INTERRUPTS determine and gehtx27s loosely.
To be expected as, no problems: -))
And still info.:
I possessed briefly a Hitec Flash 5 remote control. Those
again has an L-Section (sharp edges) socket and can with the
Robbe/Futaba Skysport 4 together as L-Section (sharp edges)
combination be used (allocation of the pins in the plugs see above).
The information to the operation as input device for FMS to the
Skysport 4 applies to 1:1 to the steckerbelegung of the Flash 5.
Harald Sattler, July 1999
Supplement for the transmitters MPX Europe Sprint and Graupner FM
314
Here the wiring of the lead on use of a MPX Europe Sprint of
transmitter. (should work with all MPX transmitters.)
cjg
Note from Chuck Gadd: I built this interface, and it works perfectly on my Multiplex Cockpit MM transmitter.
Plan view on socket in the transmitter:
|
- 1 = Battery +
-
- 2 = + if switched on
-
- 3 = Battery - (ground)
-
- 4 = Signal
-
- 5 = if connected with 3, no TX radiation
-
Note from Chuck Gadd: As shown in the above list, if you connect Pin 3 and Pin 5 together in your
adapter, the transmitter RF section will be disabled. This results in EXTREMELY LONG battery life
while flying the sim. I've left the TX on for 12+ hours on a single charge when using the sim.
|
thus:
The Graupner FM of 314 transmitters can be used also, however with
a small specially circuit (then also as transmitter with MC
18/20/24). On the circuit board in the transmitter there is a plug-in
connection (3 pin) in the center down. There a GR Servokabel is
attached in such a way that the orange link shows to the left, if the
open transmitter with the antenna away from one shows. The components can
be soldered to 3.5 mm a stereoklinkenbuchsestereoklinkenbuchse
stereoklinkenbuchse and the breakdown diode must into the Sub d plug.
Bernd Hagen, November 1999
Supplement for the transmitter FM-SS PROFESSIONAL 7/14
Link of the remote control FM-SS PROFESSIONAL 7/14 to the
parallel port of the PC's for operation with the FMS:
Material:
- 1x restatus 750 OHMS > = 1/8 Watt
- 1x breakdown diode 4.7 V > = 1/8 Watt
- 1x plug 25 polig (male) for link to the parallel port
- 1x circuit board plug 5polig (female). In order to get the
correct plug, I my HF module with the electronics loading took. That
seems to be a standardized measure.
- approx. 2.5 millimeters contact bush distance.
- 1x 2 poliges cable approx. 2-3m long
- various: (soldering iron/tin ISO tape...)
The FM-SS PROFESSIONAL 7/14 unfortunately neither a link for
a teacher/pupil cable still another possesses link to " transmission
lots tests ". In the manual it is that the HF module is " of the
plug-in type ". (if I quite remember myself, could acquire one for
this remote control of HF modules for different frequency bands).
Now, at least my module is not only " plug-in ", but fastens
additionally with 2 screws. Well, easy Unschaerfen...
As it's built:
Open rear remote control cover (meant is here the entire rear
cover, not in into this let in black plastic lids.)
The HF module is centrically on the remote control circuit
board. HF module remove.
On the circuit board now a five-pin contact strip (male)
should become visible. (to meaning see fig. 2). Circuit board plugs
according to diagram 1 and fig. 2 to the cable solder on and attach.
Note! the distance to the remote control cover is quite
small. Therefore the upper contact kontaktpinne at the plug bend
and
the whole well strip.
(at least with me) in the place of the connection in the
cover piece of plexiglass is let in, with to open exactly or close
could one however a short-circuit produce....(na it knows) the cable
leaves itself quite good by the plastic lid opening of the
Cover lead out.
Since the connection described above is somewhat wobbly, I
short hand the led out cable for the discharge of the patch cord to
the upper stretcher handle of the remote control fastened.
Covers close: -).
The actual " circuit " I after diagram 1 in the parallel plug
accommodated.
finished.
Two words still: This remote control is equipped with a
field strength measuring instrument. Since to removing HF module
nothing more is transmitted, the display should remain being in the "
computer operation " on zero. The described circuit functions even
still if the battery test is already for a long time in the red area.
Why a sizing modification of the restatus?
My transmitter is equipped with 9 nicad cells. In
particular therefore it is advisable to increase the restatus of that
suggested INTERFACE. In order to one switch current (in the worst
case) of < 10 mA to come, I a restatus of approx. 733 ohms
calculated. The next standard value is to 1/8 Watt with 750 ohms, is
sufficient. (restatus and breakdown diode are here rather only meant
the remote control or the transmitter for protecting in the case of a false
link. With the small price of perhaps 2DM I would not save here
however really)
I saw on the circuit board with the Anschlusstelle
Akku/Fernsteuerungsplatine, which the transmitter can be operated probably
with normal batteries. Perhaps in this case one could use larger
restatus for safety reasons still another...
The diagram 1 looks as follows:
+---------+
5 )------------------| 750 Ohm |---------*--------------------( Pin 10
+---------+ |
|
-----
HF-Board / Parallel
in the transmitter /\ ZPD 4.7 Port on
/ \ PC
------
|
|
2 )--------------------------------------*--------------------( Pin 18
Fig. 2: Remote control from the rear
------
|
| --- Antenna
|
-------------------------------
| |
| |
| Hf-Module-Link |
| ooooo |
| 12345 |
| --------------------------- |
| | various adjusters | | over the adjusters
| --------------------------- | normally the black
| | Battery | | Plastic covers
-------------------------------
Assertion HF module link:
(allocation only by " fairs in operation without HF module "
determines)
- 1: (no direct passage to the antenna)
- 2: Akku minus
- 3: (seems to have no direct passage to the Akku, in
operation however about like 4)
- 4: Akku plus (max. approx. 9x1,34 V=12,06 V)
- 5: Switching impulse (negative i.e. has depending upon
status of the information of signal passage to 2 or no passage)
Michael bad, November 1999
Supplement for the transmitter " microprop proportionally 4/6 " of
the company Brand-Elektronik
there the transmitter no teacher
pupils socket had (mine anyhow not), remains nothing different one to
open than the transmitter in order to make a connection to the printer port
PC.
The output stage of the control module cannot be connected
unfortunately directly with the printer port. It is not in a the
position to produce the necessary TTL Low level. Thus an adaptor
stage must be inserted.
1. Cable connections between control module and HF module
take off, in order to protect and reduce by the current consumption
the HF output stage against harm by the operation without antenna.
2. PPM output signal (point A in the connection diagram) and
Ground on the control module look up. With my transmitter the output signal
is led across the transparent of the four braids (black, red violet,
transparency) of the cable connection already mentioned. Check with
uncertainty best with an oscilloscope.
3. Npn transistor (BC548 o.ae.) to point attach A (see
connection diagram). The output is led out easily as open Collector
and connected with / ACK input (pin 10) PC of the printer of port.
Ground is to be connected with pin 18 of the printer of port. As
working resistance the internal Pullup resistance of the printer of
port serves. Thus an adjustment in level is unnecessary.
Connection diagram:
Note: The transistor level downstream inverts the PPM
signal. That has no effects on the function however, since the
control information is contained in the distances of the impulses. It
is therefore inconsequential whether the distance of the rising or
falling flanks is measured.
Further questions answer I gladly under mine eMail address:
hjmiks@t online.de
Hans Juergen Miks , December 1999
Supplement for the transmitter seal of PROM AR
pin
allocation 5pol. DIN socket (seen of the transmitter inside; Back
opinion; Cable page):
The rectangle impulssignal fits with a peak/peak value of
1.72 V measured to Ground.
HF section with the pupil operation (with the operation at
FMS) remove!
Markus Luetzenburger, January 2000
Supplement for the transmitter Futaba-F14
Johann Aichinger, March 2000
For supplement for the transmitter " HITEC FLASH 4 "
the
transmitter neither over teacher pupils a socket nor had a HF section
plug-in (mine anyhow not), I opened there the transmitter and me the
necessary signal with the oscilloscope looked up. It is present as
TTL signal at a SMD component with the designation " SYSTEM ". Since
me this dares however too is, I created a open Collector output with a
BC 547.
So the SMD component is to be found:
transmitters open and battery box cables off take. At the lower
edge of circuit board 2 series are one above the other to 20 pins,
which belong to the LCD (edge of circuit board) and to the
MicroController (over it, 40-polig). Look the pins up 5 and 6 from
left counted. The SMD component " SYSTEM " is appropriate for approx.
10 mm over this pins. I removed and interconnected the signal
according to following sketch. Do not rauszuziehen forgotten, the
quartz!
Stefan Runkel , April 2000
Supplement for the "Graupner MC-15" transmitter
The link to the MC-15 von Graupner is very easy and in the following is briefly described.
If one opens the housing, you can see a small circuit board above the HF module
which contains a many rows of pins. At the two middle pins of the lower socket on the right
side (hopefully my sketch helps!) I measured the signal levels, and the voltage levels were
perfect for the parallel port, so I connected the cable directly from the pins to parallel port
connector.
cjg
Email questions to: markus.ploeger@t-online.de
Supplement for the "Graupner JR FM6014/PCM18 " transmitter
my GRAUPNER JR FM6014/PCM18 is not equipped with an trainer socket socket.
It was easy to find the pin with the transmitter signal however.
Remove the HF Module. As circled on the left side of the picture, The signal is on the right
edge of that connector plug (red wire), and the ground is on the left edge (Brown wire).
A 520 ohm resistor was added to the Signal line for reliability.
cjg
Stefan Reif, July 2000